I haven't been able to post for a couple of days so, while the sun is out today, you are getting the rainy day post.I've been poking around in the US Govt sites lately, looking at the rules for acquiring US citizenship. What a morass of weird and seemingly senseless rules I've found. I don't understand the reasoning at all.
Here's the story. Our friend Rod was born and raised in Mexico City. His mother, now in her 80's, is an American citizen and lives in Mexico on an FM2 or immigrant visa. In other words, her only citizenship is from the USA. Her father was from Ireland and her mother from France, they immigrated to the US where she was born in Texas. While she was fairly young, they moved to Mexico. She married and had 4 children, Rod is one of the middle kids.
Much like I think a lot of US citizens would assume, I thought that Rod should be eligible for US citizenship based on his mother being a citizen. Here's where it gets complicated. His mother could have registered his birth with the US embassy in Mexico while he was a child, if she had she would have received a form from them. That form would have guaranteed citizenship to my friend. Walk into the embassy and they give you a passport is how someone described it. I doubt it is that easy but the outcome would be certain.
She didn't know that though, remember this was almost 50 years ago. So, now he would have to qualify under a complicated set of rules. He was born between 1952 and 1986 so he has to prove that his mother lived in the US for 10 years prior to his birth with 5 of those years coming after the age of 14. If he had been born between 1986 and the present, she would have had to live in the US for 5 years prior to his birth with 2 years after the age of 14.
He doesn't make the cut. I don't understand this. Any woman that can get to the US illegally and have her baby guarantees that child US citizenship but someone who is the child of a legal US citizen is not? What is the point of these rules about years lived and age? They have changed the requirements several times but never eliminated the rule so it must have some justification, I just don't see it. Also, if his mother had known to register his birth there would be no question of years lived in the US or anything else. Same kid, but different rules?
He could probably gain Irish citizenship easier, I think the Irish allow you to claim citizenship using a grandparent. He doesn't care that much about getting the US passport but he would like to be able to visit the US without the huge visa hassle. He has relatives in San Francisco and he would like to travel around the US. He was up there a lot as a kid but apparently he traveled on his mother's passport then.
I wish I could help him or at the very least explain it, but I have no explanation and even with my "superior English skills" and first hand knowledge of American culture, this stuff just doesn't make sense.



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Okay first of all, that kitten is cuter than CRAP. And secondly, while reading, I was thinking maybe he should try the Irish passport route if he just wants to visit the US. He definitely can get one through the grandparent, and it doesn't appear to be too difficult (I've checked it out). I wonder if it is easier to visit the US on an Irish passport than trying to go the visa route as a Mexican citizen. Worth researching, but perhaps you already have. Anyway, here's wishing him luck in the quest.
Have the dogs started wondering why the camera is never pointed in their direction these days? Of course, we all know why.
Pfffff! What a hassle!
Maybe he should ask for his Irish citizenship (which means he'll get European citizenship) and once he has that there is no problem for him entering the US. Hubby doesn't require a visa to enter the states with his EU passport.....
Still, I agree with you... immigration laws are sometimes plain ridiculous!
Fned.
HI- first I have to admit I've been lurking you ladiez lately and haven't even gushed properly over how freakin' adorable Tito is! OMG he is prolly THE cutest kitten in the know universe!! He reminds me of Nermal from the Garfield comics!! Do not let me in your house- I will steal him.
I swear the Mexican bureaucracy is bad enough then, you mix the passage of time and a couple of other countries in the there and well,pass me the lighter...
Good luck!!
While trying to come up with my own comment to express the same sentiment, I read jj's first sentence. Yep. That's what I needed to say, exactly.
And um - sorry about your friend and wish I had a good suggestion, but you can't honestly expect us to focus on a serious issue while dangling cuter than crap pictures in front of us the whole time.
Yup! Cuter than crap! That about sums it up. If there is a cuteness scale then Tito is off the charts.
I was IMing with my son tonight and told him that I think as I get old I get more susceptible to the cuteness factor. I also told him if I ever started buying those Hummel figurines like his grandmother to just shoot me. He said he'd just take them away ;)
So, now you can see my best excuse for procrastination. I start doing something worthwhile and then.. "Stop! Mimi! Look at Tito! Isn't that the cutest thing, get the camera. Must play with kitteh."
The dogs are completely confused. They hear the tone of voice that is supposed to mean 'come here you lovely pooch and let me scratch your ears' and instead, they get sent away for the little fluff ball.
Oh, and I don't know if my friend wants to even try the Irish thing. Remember, his mother is in her 80's so who knows what kind of paperwork she has for her father. He's ok, he could probably even get a visa to the US as he is pretty settled and employed and all. It's expensive though and a hassle.
Plus, I think there is a part of him that wants to experience his 'American-ness'. He was bitching about the way something is done in Mexico the other day and suddenly he says in his really cute accent "I suck as a Mexican". That has had me rolling every time I think about it. In fact, Mimi and I say it to each other all the time now.
I think I suck as an American!! LOL
Unfortunately, I have nothing helpful or informative to add, just that that kitten is too cute!!
tito is sooooo cute-he makes me want a kitten, but i already have 2 feline friends. i am moving into a 2nd story apt. it will be nice so my kitties will be able to get some fresh air, i just hope neither one jumps off. seeing that picture of tito looking down from the couch made me wonder if he would jump. that couch makes him look like he's on top of a mountain.
teresa
oops-that sounds confusing. i meant to say i have a balcony on that 2nd story apt-that is where the kitties will be able to get their fresh air.
Michelle, that "I suck as an American" comment has also gotten rather popular around here... especially when talking about politics!
Teresa, I got the meaning! Tito has gotten steadier on his feet and mainly I think his vision has improved so he can see how far down things are now. Still, we watch him carefully if he is out on the deck as I still don't trust that he won't just walk off the edge. I think a full grown cat is too smart for that but they do make mistakes. Even though, every cat I've known tries to act like they made those errors on purpose. 'Who me? I meant to fall off the back of the couch, of course I did it on purpose.' Luckily, there is sand at the bottom if he did fall. Still, not what I want to happen.
Well, I have good news! Having just gone through the experience of getting Matilda's US citizenship here are the steps that son John and daughter-in-law Lisa did. One they had to get THEIR birth certificates from the states they were born in. Then they had to have them apostilized by that state. That, along with their marriage certificate, the Mexican birth certificate which they got in San Miguel necessitated a trip to the American Embassy in Mexico City and they had the American citizenship papers THAT day. If your friend is anywhere near a consulate office, if he goes in, they will help him with the process. It works! Matilda has her Mexican and American citizenship papers now.....BUT it did take 3 months for John and Lisa to get the needed paperwork from the USA from the respective states.....Good luck.
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